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The Woodward Effect - Focus on Energy
By Paul March | Published  07/16/2005 | Feature Articles | Rating:
Paul March
Aerospace engineer with experience at Lockheed Martin, Lockheed Space, and currently Jacobs Engineering. 

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Where does the harvested energy come from?

Occasionally it’s a good thing to wonder what we are really tapping into with these Woodward Effect (W-E) based Mach Lorentz Thrusters (MLT) just to know what kind of limits we will have to accommodate in our energy usage if we switched our energy needs entirely over to a W-E based energy cycle.  And most likely, with the photonically observable universe having a minimum of 10^80 atoms, (The Earth has approx. 10^50 atoms) that per the W-E are the source for and instantaneously interconnected with these proposed gravinertial waves, skimming off a few thousand quads of energy per year, (A quad is 10^15 BTU or 1.0544x10^18 Joules with the energy consumption of the world (1996) being around 300 Quads per year.), doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the big scheme of things when considering the universe is our backyard, especially if gravinertial waves are not bound to the Brane/universe we find ourselves on. 

But when trying to explain to an educated professional that doesn't have the luxury of studying this weirdness over the last seven years of their lives trying to understand it, they want to see an obvious energy source being depleted by one or more energy sinks.  So let’s see what magnitude of energy might be available if we can really make these W-E MLTs work.  It's a simple question of what energy source are we using and depleting with these W-E based MLTs and this is a question that any politician is going to ask before they will support this new energy cycle.  So IMO the energy tapped by the W-E has to come from either slowing down the universe's rate of time, or we are decreasing the average kinetic energy/temperature of each atom in the universe(s).  

So let's say the straight forward approach works and we infer that the later is the case then the total available kinetic/chemical energy of the universe could be roughly estimated by looking at the chemical bond energy in two mol of water.  This is 118,000 calories or 4.184 J/cal = 493,712 Joules, which implies that each molecule of water when broken up into its atoms yields 493,712/1.2044x10^24 = 4.099 x 10^-19 J/molecule or approximately 1x10-19 Joules/atom.  Multiplying by the number of atoms in the universe we get 1x10^-19 x 1x10^80 = 1x^61 Joules of potential energy to tap from the W-E if we only look at the kinetic and potential energy wrapped up in the outer electron shells of each atom.  If we look at the nuclear portion, well you get the idea...  Now dividing 1.0x10^61 Joules/1.0544x10^18 Joules/Quad = 9.48x10^48 Quads of energy available for use by all comers.  So let's say our robust solar system based civilization uses 10,000 quads of energy per year from our W-E MLTs with a really horrible extraction efficiency of only 0.001%.  That implies that we could provide a W-E derived energy source for 9.48x10^48 Quads/1x10^9 quads/year = 9.48 x 10^39 years and if we assume that a billion civilizations in the causally connected universe are doing the same thing, then the estimated life time of this energy source based on chemical reactions alone is 9.48^39 years/1x10^9 civilizations = 9.48x10^30 years.  For reference, the estimated life time of the universe is 15x10^9 years.  So 9.48x10^30/15x10^9 = 6.32x10^20 eons if an eon is defined as the current life time of the universe we live in.

But wait, the reason I used the bonding forces in decomposing water into their constituent parts in estimating the possible W-E based energy reserves is that a.) I happen to know them due to my lox/hydrogen rocket engine research and b.), its representative of a fairly strong chemical reaction that could be taken as a typical potential energy per atom.  But I had a friend point out to me that on a universal scale, 80% hydrogen and 20% helium electrical plasmas are much more representative of the bulk of the universal baryonic matter.  So how would one determine the potential and kinetic energy of a proton and a helium nucleus?

I would assume that we would first have to add up the complete ionization energies for the electron around the hydrogen nucleus and the two electrons around the helium nucleus.  That is the kinetic energy of the electrons in the plasma.  Next would be to make an estimate of the kinetic energy of the quarks that make up the proton in the hydrogen atom and the two protons and two neutrons in the helium atom.  That figure I don't know off the top of my hat, but we are taking nuclear binding forces here instead of chemical ionization energies, so the available kinetic energies will be 7-to-9 orders of magnitude higher than my previous water decomposition example.  So in the end analysis, my previous energy reserve estimates based on chemical bonding get boosted by at least seven orders of magnitude when taking hydrogen and helium plasma as the primary constituents of the universe.  Well I said that my first guestimate was on the low side!

Now my firend also made the observation that "we" might have something to do with the recently measured expansion rate of the universe increasing instead of decreasing, becuse we are just starting to use the W-E for MLT experiments, so I'll point out to you an interesting fact.  The expansion rate of the universe was slowing as expected until, I think 5-to-8 billion years ago.  If the universe is 14 billion years old, then that would have allowed about 7 billion years for life and intelligence to have evolved on older star systems.  Perhaps other much older civilizations than ours started using the W-E based energy extraction systems in large scale 5-to-6 billion years ago. And what do you know, the MLT's "exhaust" turns out to create an acceleration of the expansion of the universe.  If this is true, then my idea about the MLTs changing the rate of time may be closer to the truth, but I got the sign wrong.  Food for thought.

Nope, it’s not going to be a problem using the W-E to power our civilization or anybody else’s for that matter in the foreseeable future, even if my above estimates are a number of orders of magnitude off reality...


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  • Comment #1 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    beats the pants off the ramtha article :-) about using natural forces to reappropraite in time and space some of the generalised energy resident in a universal force for our own use. I dont understand it but it has a good feel to it like a flow system the energy displaced from gravity at one point is relocated instantly through time and space to all other points...
     
  • Comment #2 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Being a novice to physics I would have prefered a more conceptual expanation than raw numbers and calculations. I read the article and still am lacking a clear idea of what this is. I will of course read it again.
     
  • Comment #3 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    ITER we know is not a solution: Too much atomic waste generated in the midst of our 'closed system Planet' and has been pointed out: Not one watt of power has made it from Hot Fusion to the Power Grid.
    Also if the mechanisms become 'saturated' through radiation within two years that indicates that such technology even if proven will be horrendously expensive!
    Tapping the 'ether' as I understand the process to be is well worth the 'token amounts of capital' made available for further research/deployment.
    As mentioned in other posts: If nuclear power is so safe and clean why aren't more Supper Clubs and Day Care Centers located in Containment Buildings Containment Buildings are designed to withstand direct hits by most missles; so their security should not be of questionable significance.
    Roy Stewart
    Phoenix AZ
    ps. If W-E and MLT and related energy 'extraction' methods are safe enough to locate in Primary Schools then 'Get the Show On The Road'; Placing one project at a time into functional operation.
    Doing so will serve to train snd educate the legions of mechanics which will be required for fabrication installation maintenance of these systems. Also espose and open-up new minds for extended concepts.
     
  • Comment #4 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    interestin hypothesis yet clear and straight forward
    and with a touch of well-placed humour

     
  • Comment #5 (Posted by Peter Vandeventer)
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    I think the biggest problem with "getting the show on the road" is funding. The w.e. is still not generally accepted or known by the scientific community. To start putting up these w.e. based machines through-out the world a few things need to happen...

    1. A conclusive demonstartion that is as obvious as turning on and off a switch and getting something to hover.
    2. If this is done then the mass funding will begin.
    (That is assuming that the US government doesn't try to cover it up.)

    The reason I feel that if this w.e. is real it might be covered up is due to the worm-hole term in Woodward's equations. Imagine being able to cheaply make a worm-hole that has the potential of doing some serious damage Imagine if this stuff fell into the wrong hands
     
  • Comment #6 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I think the Woodward effect is one of the most promising avenues for reactionless propulsion out there.
     
  • Comment #7 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I thought the way i was brought numbers that i will have to go a read up the meaning of was a bit overwelming. This took a little off my enjoyment and understanding. I am still a bit a stay to what Woodward is doing and how he is doing it. You see when i go around talking to the average UK idiot about new energies i like to be able to back up what i am saying with a bit of know how. Or else i look stupid (although i am clearly not) and the fight to rid fossil fuels takes a step backwards. Some people just don't want to know how things work just that they do. People like me can explain these technologies to those people without boring them to much;)) gaining support before the proof is on the market place!!

    I am guessing you use something to harness the fact that most things move! In fact all things above the tempreture of absolute zero have potential energies (Kinetic(gravity/repultion) and others) and anywhere there is a potential difference in those energies we can harness that difference for energy production to meet our own needs. I wish i could explain your generators better until i can i wont;).
     
  • Comment #8 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Excellent from what I can tell but it's not very geared toward the intelligent layman. Not knowing what the Woodward Effect is or how MLT's work or ARE for that matter makes it kinda hard to put it all in context.
    I was only searching for anti-gravity devices on google !
    Still an interesting read nonetheless.
    meat@gravestone.net
    -meat
     
  • Comment #9 (Posted by Peter Vandeventer)
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    To learn more about the "Woodward Effect" look at Dr. Woodward's website. (Dr. Woodward prefers to give credit of this effect to Mach therefore he does not use the phrase "woodward effect")

    To understand the foundation of Paul's article you will need to read up about Mach's principle and W-F Absorber theory. (Explained conceptually on the web-site)

    http://chaos.fullerton.edu/Woodward.html
     
  • Comment #10 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I enjoyed reading this W-E article and shall do further reading on the Woodward website.

    The article was written in a commonsense style with just enough math to make it interesting. I therefore encourage the author to post further articles in time with his research and I for one shall look out for them.

    Keep up the good work!
     
  • Comment #11 (Posted by Space Invaders)
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    Very interesting indeed, But what they need is a man rated propulsion system for me to be interested.
     
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